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@ FernandoTheKoala
2025-05-18 17:29:52
Let me open by saying that if it was for me, btc would be used only for money tx and I’d eliminate the spam issue at a consensus level. I don’t like this thing, but I’ve been trying to better understand core ideas behind this.
So, for sake of argument let’s take for granted it’s not possible to change this at consensus level. It seems that spams will always find a workaround, and if miners open private channels to allow these spams, it will be very very difficult in the future to make them change to public channels which are way less harmful (because it’d be too expensive for them to change).
Since atm mining is highly centralized, and it’s impossible to stop spam, it seems the reasoning is to find a way to make ppl spam in the least possible harmful way (and to prevent further mining centralization through direct requests)
I like the idea that we should find a way for the market to deal with this itself, and push spam out cause they’ll be too expensive. I like the idea that the best defense is to be as open as possible and preventing spams at the same time (that way we’d be impenetrable).
On the other hand I don’t like the idea that we are not more vocal about mining centralization which is the fundamental issue here (I mean, if mining was truly decentralized we wouldn’t be taking about all this, right?). I fell like core is saying “atm mining is highly centralized and this is the best way we have to deal with it atm. For now let’s avoid further mining centralization which would be an enormous issue”
Again, I don’t like this whole thing, but I’ve been reading a lot and trying to better get the reasoning behind all this. It’s hard to believe a core move away from btc as money, and if they’d fuck up the monetary aspect of btc it would also harm themselves, I don’t see this as plausible (or maybe I really wanna believe it lol)
Thoughts? Also nostr:nprofile1qqs0eac2gh86s9l24qfmnw52xawhz0f3d862yleaetpafygjmanaxlspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wvh8xmmrd9skc5jkkq4 and nostr:nprofile1qqsrmkj9qz9q8ywhjvlp4e7v8wzyhlv3eykaalg02h8x4lgz2am09kcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsccd6lr