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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-12 17:06:53
Amount... Meant npub, but autocorrect had no idea what that is. 😂
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-12 16:24:14
That makes sense. Thank you for the explanation! I can definitely see the benefit of following folks for particular content types, rather than following everything a person posts, and then the client can give you the options, or if it is a client that focuses only on a certain kind, only add the amount to that follow list.
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@ fa984bd7:58018f52
2025-01-12 13:08:17
changing the meaning of kinds in nostr, specially something so ubiquitous like kind:3 is very hard/impossible to get agreement on
but besides that, follow lists are already quite constrained by size limit, multiple people run into this issue, they are also designed quite poorly (leading to the issue where people get their follow list wiped often)
we are still figuring this out, but these scoped follow events should be an improvement over the kind:3 we've had thus far (although it's unlikely the kind:3 will go away any time soon)
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@ 598de1e6:7fd4a6a5
2025-01-12 10:59:02
I did manage to upload something now, can you see the NewYearSpeech of the Indian Guru?
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@ 598de1e6:7fd4a6a5
2025-01-12 10:58:23
cheers!
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@ 9c47bb51:000381d0
2025-01-12 04:25:06
That’s dope af
If I’m ever in the area I’ll hit you up
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-12 04:11:49
And we have a growing Bitcoin community here. Kicking around the idea of starting a PNW version of Pubkey in the CDA area.
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@ 9c47bb51:000381d0
2025-01-12 04:09:01
I’m sure it’s a much calmer way of living too and better state policies.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-12 04:05:39
Definitely glad to be here. Moved away from the communism of Western Washington and it was the second best decision of my life, with the best being when I started stacking sats.
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@ 9c47bb51:000381d0
2025-01-12 00:53:54
Oh is it?
I stopped by there once with my wifey at. Restaurant and it was amazing food. Empanadas (guy name was Nathan I believe) ahah but I guess it was near the university.
Lovely chill vibed area. I also connected with one black person there. He was SO HAPPY to see me and I’m like sorry man I’m just driving by, I don’t live here haha.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-12 00:28:59
Otherwise known as freedom land, yes.
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@ 9c47bb51:000381d0
2025-01-12 00:28:11
You live in Idaho ?
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@ c582af78:698069cc
2025-01-12 00:27:44
If the solution already exists, then there's no issue at all. This post was just to drive engagement. Next!
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-12 00:26:00
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@ 65912a7a:5dc638bf
2025-01-11 23:14:48
I think it's a Alby Hub issue. And Alby is aware of it. When the backend node goes down, Alby Hub isn't always able to restart services, and manual intervention is required to re-initialize the connection between the backend node and Alby Hub.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-11 23:03:34
If there's anyone who can make sure services are running properly on their Start9, it's nostr:nprofile1qqs8fl79rnpsz5x00xmvkvtd8g2u7ve2k2dr3lkfadyy4v24r4k3s4sppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucn89ur9eu8h. He's helped me out of a jam on a few occasions now.
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@ f9c4c8a6:5da53ba2
2025-01-11 20:15:16
I tried to DM the nostr:npub17304velluajf6lylvjynpj2f3ndg396w063gj2gef5qk0nwtcyjqfj9yky but got a bot reply. But yeah I keep getting errors
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-11 19:16:08
First, it's already happening with big pools excluding transactions in order to be OFAC compliant, and yet those pools are only getting bigger.
Not all censorship results in financial loss that would actually make miners leave due to their bottom-line shrinking.
Those accusations against nostr:nprofile1qqsq9k04vahllseell55m74n3047y88pzlr0z5yany32st29fapqmgsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgawaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctc87ckyu were ridiculous because OCEAN had and still has such a small percentage of the hash rate that any transactions they intentionally excluded would have made it into the very next block, and their intention was ALWAYS to let the individual miners make their own block templates, which we can now do, so OCEAN has no say in what makes it into a block.
Meanwhile, all it takes is two entities to collude and they can keep transactions out of 90% of blocks, which has a meaningful impact on how long it could take for those transactions to be included by a smaller pool.
Most mining companies would not solo-mine, because they need the consistent revenue.
The point is, if a solution to the problem exists, and it does. DATUM works. Then more pools should adopt it, or miners should move to pools that it can be used with.
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@ c582af78:698069cc
2025-01-11 15:21:10
My only real concern would be a decrease in the number of nodes, as that could indeed lead to centralization! As long as the incentives are aligned, I don't see any issue.
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@ c582af78:698069cc
2025-01-11 15:18:44
There have been some cases of censorship in the past, like when the Samurai team accused Ocean itself. Anyway, game theory takes care of this. If this kind of thing starts happening frequently, the censoring pool will end up losing money, and miners will switch to another pool or even choose to mine solo. Next.
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@ 65912a7a:5dc638bf
2025-01-11 09:34:18
Its more likely his backend node went down or had some connectivity issue, and he didn't property restart Alby Hub. I've seen this with a lot of self-hosted Alby configs, especially those using Start9.
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@ 9aeec63e:b378b40d
2025-01-11 08:54:17
Wow thanks. I did not know that or haven't checked it in a while. 🫂
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@ f527cf97:65e232ee
2025-01-11 08:48:10
Yes that's a cool feature.
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@ 3e6e0735:9e95c8a2
2025-01-11 07:50:50
nostr:nprofile1qqsdhd9anmv3j8khd3d08kxy0238np94h9cj0zqsjw6p707ysmtwe0qpzfmhxue69uhk7enxvd5xz6tw9ec82cspz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqzrthwden5te0dehhxtnvdakqfl7mkn
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@ a10260a2:caa23e3e
2025-01-11 07:49:31
Bullish on Coinos.
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@ ef9a20d7:99b5a939
2025-01-11 06:25:24
It sounds to me like Ive got my hashrate targeted correctly.
Running DATUM on Start9, awesome.
https://m.primal.net/NbXP.jpg
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@ 97c70a44:ad98e322
2025-01-11 01:48:55
Correcto
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@ 34583753:87a189b0
2025-01-11 01:08:59
nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpqkun5628raxpm7usdkj62z2337hr77f3ryrg9cf0vjpyf4jvk9r9s8dqunw what is?
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-11 00:48:39
Yeah, I don't think there is a way to get your credits back out. Consider it a donation to the service provider.
Unleashed is a great little service, and I have never had issues with it. Others also seem to be having no issues, so there must be something strange on your end such that you are getting errors while no one else is reporting the same.
nostr: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 is the guy to poke about it.
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@ f9c4c8a6:5da53ba2
2025-01-11 00:05:23
I keep getting errors and I can't get my credits out of the system 😐
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@ 47be0b2a:e8d8816e
2025-01-10 23:25:28
than?
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 23:12:36
Flotilla is a client for relay-based communities. Find it at flotilla.social
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@ fd3423d0:8367ec3a
2025-01-10 23:09:29
Is flotilla a relay?
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@ 460c25e6:ef85065c
2025-01-10 23:06:05
5 times is the threshold but you are far, far, far more then 5 times.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 23:03:11
What you are referring to are orphan blocks, which do happen from time to time when miners find a block very close to the same time as another miner. However, both of those blocks usually propagate to the whole network before the next block is found. The nodes just hold onto both blocks until the next block is found and propagates out to everyone. The chances of two more blocks being found at about the same time and built upon different previous blocks is very small, but you still wouldn't have half of the network not knowing about one of the blocks. Both blocks would propagate out to all nodes, and they would keep them both until it became clear which chain would become the longest.
But the miners aren't relying on ALL nodes to do this for them. They are relying on THEIR node, or really their pool's node in most cases, to provide that service. Which is part of the reason pools charge a fee for the use of their node...
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@ cd9ea7cf:2d0cd138
2025-01-10 22:50:52
Let's say two miners (A and B) find a block at the same time. One part of the network will stick to Block A, while the other part of the network sticks to block B (due to propagation difference).
The miner (or lets say longest chain) that can faster propagate through the network over the next blocks will win and thus get the reward. Not sure if we cab call it a race condition but definetely here the reward of miners depends on nodes.
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@ 33c74427:09fb6940
2025-01-10 22:49:41
I have no idea if mine will appear there or how. The Amthetyst Algorithm basically counts your entire history against you per the code.
For example, if you ever said the same thing more than 5 times, spam!
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@ 33c74427:09fb6940
2025-01-10 22:47:06
Interesting.......I heard that a few times. But many have noticed the autol-blocking.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 22:45:37
No. And I also just spun up a brand new npub and looked at my security filters. You are not listed as a spammer, and I can see your posts just fine.
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@ 33c74427:09fb6940
2025-01-10 22:45:33
he is, he even made a misleading video about it.......if it's not happening to you, you are special or security filters are off
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@ 33c74427:09fb6940
2025-01-10 22:44:20
Do you have security filters off?
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 22:42:54
I am posting this from #Amethyst. nostr:nprofile1qqsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcscpyug is not censoring you.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 22:41:09
I have no idea what you mean by micro work... I also don't know what you mean that the service nodes provide is how miners get their rewards... It's not. Miners literally pay themselves... Nodes don't pay them or in any way make sure that they get paid. They just make sure the miners didn't pay themselves more than they are allowed to by rejecting any block where a miner tries to pay themselves more than they are owed.
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@ 33c74427:09fb6940
2025-01-10 22:40:43
Stop lying.
Security Filters are on by default.
My followers literally told me over and over Amethyst is blocking them. I seen it with my own eyes.
Not if , Vitor admitted in in a misleading video and slandered me as a spammer. it's all public
Why are you acting like such a retard now?
Do you not value truth?
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@ cd9ea7cf:2d0cd138
2025-01-10 22:32:16
By providing that service, miners get their reward - I cannot disagree more to describe this with 'no"work" involved'.
The only challenge I see, is that the additional work required to proof their micro work could be more than their actual "work" provided.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 22:22:52
They do, but they only provide that service to each other, so all nodes equally benefit from other nodes and provide that benefit to other nodes. So again, there's not anything they should get paid for. There is no "work" involved in that. It's just relaying information around to their peers who also relay information to them.
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@ cd9ea7cf:2d0cd138
2025-01-10 22:19:56
Never said they provide micro work to find a block.
The provide micro work to propagate the information about the longest chain along the network.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 22:17:52
Wait... Nodes provide "micro work" to the block? No. They don't. They contribute ZERO work to finding a block. Not even a little. No reward due to them whatsoever.
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@ cd9ea7cf:2d0cd138
2025-01-10 22:16:01
I am not saying "(light) node pay (light) node each other" but miners distribute based on a proof of micro work a micro share of their block reward to nodes thatare legit - maybe randomly.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 22:15:50
There is no benefit that you provide to the network by running your node that all other nodes on the network don't equally provide to you. Hence, there is nothing to pay you for, unless someone who is NOT running their own node is relying on your node in order to access the network. In that case you absolutely could charge them to do so, but that would be on you to decide whether or not to charge for that service, and how much.
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@ cd9ea7cf:2d0cd138
2025-01-10 22:10:22
True, no proof there - that is why I am asking for a criteria to identify them - to proof it.
Since work is being done. Not as much as is being done through mining but still it is work.
I am unable to follow on the singular "only for you" rhetoric here. Sure I do it for me but also for the network.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 22:08:05
Not unless I start using someone else's node, I don't, and then, yes, they could charge me a fee for its use if they so chose.
If my node is booted from the network, then I either need to find a way to get it reconnected, or I need to use someone else's, and only then do they have a legitimate reason to be paid for the service.
If my peers are booted from the network, my node will find new peers. And again, my node is providing exactly the same benefit to my peers as they are to me, so there is no reason any of us should pay the others.
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@ cd9ea7cf:2d0cd138
2025-01-10 22:01:28
You may benefit from them if your node and its peers are cut off from the network?
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@ b9e76546:612023dc
2025-01-10 22:01:08
There is no POW, so its vulnerable to sybil. Plus like nostr:nprofile1qywhwumn8ghj7erfddskjmmnxy6nzdewdehhxarjxyhxxmmd9uq3samnwvaz7tmxd9k8getj9ehx7um5wgh8w6twv5hszythwden5te0dehhxarj9emkjmn99uq3kamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwvfexjemgw33x7mr59ehx2ap0qys8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnzwf5kw6r5vfhkcapwdejhgtmfde3x77qpr9mhxue69uhhwmm59e38y6t8dp6xymmvwshxuet59uqzpde8f55w86vrhaeqmd955y4rraw8aunzxgxstsj7eyzgntyev2xtz675kl said, you run it for *your* protection, which only protects the network by extension of everyone protecting themselves. By itself and without a bitcoiner using it defensively nodes don't have much value some minor caveats here).
This is why one person spinning up 10,000 nodes is meaningless.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 21:57:26
Yes. Now, who benefits from those legit nodes? I benefit from my own, so no one should pay me to run it. Anyone using someone else's node may benefit from that node, and the operator may charge for its use or not charge. That's up to them.
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@ cd9ea7cf:2d0cd138
2025-01-10 21:54:23
"actually transacting" sounds misleading here.
As I wrote initially, it should be legit nodes of course. 1 million legit nodes are much more stable than 20K.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 21:25:18
It's not about the sheer number of nodes, though. 100 billion nodes that no one uses for actually transacting doesn't protect the network from anything.
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@ 4d784205:6f5b96b3
2025-01-10 21:24:21
Thank you very much
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 21:23:01
Mining requires specialized hardware these days. Your general purpose GPU or CPU cannot keep up with the SHA256 specific ASIC chips, so you wouldn't earn anything at all mining with your regular PC.
Snag a little Bitaxe if you want to dip your toes in and see what mining is all about. They make great conversation starters, too.
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@ 4d784205:6f5b96b3
2025-01-10 21:18:54
Can I get started with a dedicated PC or do I have to use specialized equipment?
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@ cd9ea7cf:2d0cd138
2025-01-10 21:16:54
nostr:nprofile1qqstwf6d9r37nqalwgxmfd9p9gclt3l0yc3jp5zuyhkfqjy6extz3jcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgcwaehxw309anxjmr5v4ezumn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tcprdmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucnjd9nksarzdak8gtnwv46z7273e59
It is perfectly clear to me how the network works and why Lightning Routing will be paid.
The amount of nodes in the network is a measure of distribution. The more nodes we have the more robust it is against attacks. I was thinking of rewarding that aspect. It should be also in the interest of miners or any other participant.
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@ cbafe6f5:c999a1b1
2025-01-10 20:13:57
Sweet! You won’t make a fortune, but it’s fun and you’ll be contributing to the security of the Bitcoin network. 🤙🧡⚡️
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@ 7a8e476b:4ca2f7ec
2025-01-10 17:56:12
Take a look at my post …;) I am
Coming …
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@ 3356de61:040b8bdd
2025-01-10 11:42:21
Thanks, please let me know how we could make it better for you!
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@ 8125b911:a8400883
2025-01-10 09:42:03
Currently, nostr-relay-tray doesn't actively pull events. This is one of the features I'm working on. Since not everyone has the ability or desire to expose their local service to the internet, the ability to pull events from public relays is necessary.
From my observation, there seems to be a broadcast service in the nostr network. This might be why you're seeing events from others in your relay.
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@ d2384c4a:433151aa
2025-01-10 09:26:48
Legend. Thank you!
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 08:58:26
Can confirm, dead simple.
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@ d2384c4a:433151aa
2025-01-10 08:52:56
Awesome. I was 100% looking for a GUI.
I remember failing miserably at trying to run the booger relay?
I hope this one is easier to setup.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 07:55:01
I am not sure exactly how the client filters out notes from those on your mute list, and each client may work differently there.
It could be that they pull all notes on your read relays into the local cache, and then purge any that are authored by your muted npubs, or they may ask the relay to only send notes from nouns that don't match your mute list, so that those notes just never hit your local cache.
My guess is the former, though, since #Amethyst will tell me when a quoted note is hidden because it was authored by someone I have muted. Seems to me it would only know that if it had received the note from the relays into the local cache.
I am sure a client could choose to ignore your mute list altogether. But they don't, because they know everyone would drop their client in a heartbeat.
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@ 048ecb14:7c28ac78
2025-01-10 07:39:44
I had thought that maybe the client was doing mute filtering once on pulling from the relays into a local cache, rather than filtering when reading the cache.
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@ 048ecb14:7c28ac78
2025-01-10 07:38:14
Ah, I see that despite clicking "Mute User" and approving the modal multiple times, this npub is not getting added to my mute list.
Was doing it via the web app. Just did it again from iOS Primal App and it was added to the mute list.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 06:59:41
It should mute them completely, for you. It's just that on Nostr that's all "mute" means. The notes from that npub are still there on the relays, your client just shouldn't display them to you anymore. Anyone else who hasn't muted that npub will still see them, though.
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@ 38892be9:87586a7b
2025-01-10 06:54:20
Ok I thought it blocked and muted the npub completely.. I understand some may slip thru when they shitpost nonstop and we are on the same relays..
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 06:41:52
Mute lists just tell the client not to display notes from that npub to you, so it should work retroactively on old notes from that npub, too.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 06:38:49
They try, but they can't fool WoT.
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@ 048ecb14:7c28ac78
2025-01-10 05:45:40
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How does one mute a user and have it work retroactively on (already cached?) notes ?
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@ a80fc4a7:dc80ebd1
2025-01-10 05:07:01
I got one of those too.
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@ 0c45d7d4:5e443e4d
2025-01-10 05:01:43
There's other valid currencies that can be used in cold storage too.
But yes, having solid wallets like foundation that prioritize better cryptocurrency projects is perhaps ideal.
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@ 3eacaa76:bac66fe4
2025-01-10 05:00:48
Rape him
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 04:57:22
Fire, flood, the elements in general.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-10 04:56:20
I don't know of any alternative cache relays to Primal's.
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@ 38892be9:87586a7b
2025-01-10 04:54:11
Exactly. so primal fuckn my mute button so is fuckn amethyst app.. do you know of any cache relays?
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@ ab9a07c4:19d0ca21
2025-01-10 01:04:35
🥰😁😁😁
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-09 17:38:33
You have to weigh the chances of something happening against how destructive it would be if that something did happen. A new hard drive is what, $30? Is that worth potentially protecting your whole stack from being targeted, not to mention if your wife and kids are home when they come looking for it?
If we went by the logic of the chances of a thing happening as the only consideration, then no one has any reason to carry a firearm, because the chances of needing to use it are "super minimal."
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@ 516add19:e697c014
2025-01-09 17:34:06
🤜🤛
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@ 175aedd7:8fcdd426
2025-01-09 17:32:57
That might be a fun little project actually. Good idea!
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@ 516add19:e697c014
2025-01-09 17:29:35
You can always throw Linux on the old laptop. That’s a whole lot of fun to learn. More private than Windows and Mac too.
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@ 33c74427:09fb6940
2025-01-09 17:27:44
The chances of anything happening is super super minimal. Zero out the drive a few times if you are super autistic
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@ 175aedd7:8fcdd426
2025-01-09 17:26:53
That’s an idea. Hadn’t thought of that. Thanks!
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-09 17:26:19
He's considering selling the laptop to someone, with the drive he's been using going along with it. It would not be a matter of how important he is, but rather a potential target of opportunity.
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@ 516add19:e697c014
2025-01-09 17:24:06
That would secure your btc. Its true they could find where you sent it though. Why not keep the laptop as a backup for btc stuff?
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@ bcea2b98:7ccef3c9
2025-01-09 17:22:46
Yep, then you don't have to worry anymore.
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@ 33c74427:09fb6940
2025-01-09 17:22:27
In reality, you can just format it and throw it away.
You are not that important
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@ 175aedd7:8fcdd426
2025-01-09 17:21:41
The small amount of fiat I’d get for my old laptop is not worth sacrificing my peace of mind and potentially doxxing myself and my stack in the worst case scenario. Appreciate your insight as always my friend!
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-09 17:21:05
Hard drives aren't expensive. It's probably worth going full paranoid if you have any question about it and just replace the drive and let your buyer install whatever OS they want on the fresh drive.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-09 17:17:18
Destroying the drive is always the answer if you have sensitive information on it. I suppose you just need to decide how sensitive you think your xpub is, since it doxxes the size of your stack, which could make you a target.
Anyone who recovered your xpub from that drive would know exactly how much Bitcoin you have associated with the private key on your Jade, and they would know that you have a hardware wallet, since the keys were not on the laptop. That would give them a significant amount of information to go on if they decided it was worth breaking in to find your hardware wallet.
That's without taking into consideration any other sensitive data you may have had on your laptop that hasn't been a part of this conversation already.
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@ 175aedd7:8fcdd426
2025-01-09 17:10:17
I have a Sparrow + Jade combo. My keys have always remained offline and have never been on my old laptop. This is why I don’t understand the destroy the drive answers I’m getting. My current keys are secure and offline. Yes, if the drive was restored, they could find the public address I sent my stack to but like you said, they wouldn’t have access to my keys.
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@ b7274d28:c99628cb
2025-01-09 17:04:26
If they did recover the info on the drive, they would now know your addresses that the Bitcoin was sent to. Wouldn't give them access to it, but if your keys aren't on the laptop right now, they also wouldn't have access. You're using a hardware wallet with Sparrow, right? Sparrow isn't holding your keys hot, I hope?
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@ 9c47bb51:000381d0
2025-01-09 17:02:30
That’s true
Scary indeed
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@ 175aedd7:8fcdd426
2025-01-09 17:01:46
One more question. What if I made a new cold storage on the Mac and moved the holdings. New keys and wallet data that never touches the old device. I could then wipe the old laptop and sell it like I would like to do. Or is a demo day for the drive still in my future?